Saturday, March 3, 2012

 

 

 

       

 

 

 

 

hey, I added you on facebook because I wanted to demonstrate Christian love and friendship and openness. This is an invitation to get to know me before you write me off as stupid.

 

I know I'm young, but I would like to be given a chance and listened to.

 

Sincerely,

 Bradley

 

 

 

 

“And stupidly you claim that the President’s job is to promote peace. That is not his job. If you lack even that understanding then foreign policy is not your bag. Go write a folk song.”

 

Well, any apology from me to you for that would be insincere. “Go write a folk song” still makes me smile.

 

I have taken a look around your pages and know as much as that tells. Like Rob (his words if not his intent) I too hope you don’t get beheaded. Ten years and one month ago, less than five months after 911, Daniel Pearl was made to identify himself for a video camera and then kneel before it. KSM then hacked away with a knife until he was able to hold Daniel’s head by the hair dripping over his body. You were perhaps in the fifth grade at the time, but Rob, Dave and I remember that video vividly. It was our introduction to our enemy. They had masterfully exploited seams in our public transportation system. For a hundred thousand of cost to them, they had killed thousands of us, caused us billions of damage and fundamentally changed our society, our culture and our sense of security. But they were not contrite; they were not hiding. Instead KSM had a video made of himself sawing off the head of an American Jewish journalist. Bastards.

 

There is dispute about how we have responded, but no rational American can doubt that we had to respond. We are locked-up on spaceship Earth with those crazy SOBs and there was no place for us to run. The only alternative to violence was conversion to Islam. We are now ending the first battles of the religious war that will characterize the first part of the 21st Century. Korea, Vietnam and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan were the three great battles of the Cold War. Rob, Dave and I have living memory of two of them. There is evil in the world. Turning the other cheek is an admirable personal trait but it is not a feasible state policy. The President of the United State is not the President of the World. His job is not, and cannot be, world peace. American interests, and especially “providing for the common defense” of Americans is his first duty.

 

Happily, the interest of our country in preserving international order and protecting western civilization has global benefits. Innocent third parties around the world benefit for the peace that results from our self-interest. Those who would kill us because we stand in the way of global Islam reject that order and that civilization. If they squat in caves in Tora Bora and die without killing, they can have their miserable lives. But if they come for us, we have no choice but to meet them. We will soon extricate ourselves from Afghanistan but the greater religious war will continue.

 

For the neighborhood, Oman (where you are) is relatively developed and stable. You are fortunate to have that front-row seat. The two great oil-rich powers, Sunni Saudi Arabia and Shia Persian Iran are the greatest potential threats to world peace, now that stateless terrorists have been reduced by our efforts. The serial apologies we have made for the most recent Koran nonsense have made us appear a softer target to the Arabs and Persians. Consequently, one of those two great powers is more likely to be the next battlefield of this religious war. At least that is what Rob, Dave and I fear.

 

P.S. So that you can appreciate the context of the heated reactions to Dave’s original wall post: Yesterday we learned that a Chicago Marine was killed in Afghanistan. The DoD has a policy of withholding their press release until 24 hours after the family is notified, but we also know that six American warriors have been killed in reaction to this Koran nonsense. His name was Conner Lowry. You should know his name because he died for you.

 

 

I appreciate your words, Donald. I'm skeptical about this being a religious war. Religion and politics were not meant to because they have a tendency to spoil each other. I think it's important to remember that America is NOT a "Christian" nation- it is a nation that guarantees freedom of religion. Islam does not support terrorism either. This is a war against terrorists and we have to understand that the countries that these terrorists reside don't necessarily want US soldiers there, but they put up with them in a fight against terrorism. But it's understandable that if we do something that is perceived as an insult, that the citizens would react. I would understand that even if it wasn't in relation to religion. Afghanistan doesn't REALLY want us there, but they also don't want terrorism and they value our help. But it's not a religious war, it's a free country fighting terrorism. The problem is that terrorism is a tactic, not a concrete group of people or a political nation.

 

 

 

And naturally, if you do something and someone takes it as an insult, you apologize.

 

 

 

that said- I do appreciate Connor Lowry and all soldiers. I support troops, I don't support the governments that take them away from their families to fight wars that I feel are unjust.

 

 

 

After reading your words over and over again, more carefully each time, I appreciate your intent, your wisdom, and your willingness to take the time to discuss this with me. I would still just say that this is not a religious war, and in no way should be labeled as one. Christians and Muslims can get along. There is nothing about the two religions that states that we should hate each other. The media would like us to believe that there is, but there isn't. This is a political battle between the United States and terrorists. It's unfortunate that innocent, peace-loving Muslims take the blunt of our war against a significant minority within the Muslim faith. It's important to note the difference between Islam and Islamism. Islam is a religion. A practical religion, and the Muslims of our world would prefer to practice their religion, uninterrupted by the western world. What we perceive as oppression is actually a choice to live a life of modesty and humility, and love for one another. Islamism is a political ideology, much like Communism and Democracy are political ideologies. The United States tries to spread democracy, the Soviet world tried to spread communism, and the parts of the Islamic world try to spread Islamism. When a group tries to spread their political ideals forcefully on others, it ends in violence. But that's not Islam, that's Islamism. The majority of Muslims would say that if a person claims to be a Muslim, and kills innocent people, then he is NOT a true Muslim, because the teachings of Islam would call for peace, hospitality and love. That said, the number of Muslims who are actually suspected of terrorism is about .03% of the world's Muslims. That's a pretty small percentage, but as with all things, the squeaky wheel gets the oil. The same could be said about the so-called Christians that force democracy through war on the Muslim world. The American brand of democracy only fits alongside the cultural values and norms of American society- to try and force our perception of democracy on the Muslim world won't work, and if we continue to try and force it on people that don't want it, they will react. You mention how we're stuck on planet earth with "these SOBs" in your words- well look at it from their side, they're stuck on earth with us, and they have no choice but to react if we try to spread the American Empire the way we continue to do. That said, if we really are "stuck" on planet earth with individuals we don't agree with, wouldn't be alot better if we got along with those individuals despite differences?

 

 

 

 

The day-by-day war news is full of small details. It’s easy to miss the forest with so many trees in the way. A group of prominent Afghans met with the President of Afghanistan yesterday, Friday. After the meeting they faced the press to underscore their concern for:

 

“this crime and inhumane, savage act by American troops”

 

Naturally this is of great concern to all Americans who wish for our troops to act honorably. This “inhumane, savage act” is a special concern for the American military leaders and their civilian controllers as it compromises our very purpose for being in Afghanistan.

 

The prominent group was a council of clerics and the “crime and inhumane, savage act” was the insensitive disposal of jailhouse contraband. Korans were used to smuggle messages into a POW prison so they were confiscated. They were accumulated with other papers and all the literature was then incinerated. All SOP.

 

But then Afghan laborers found the charred remains and a week of nationwide violence has left 30 dead including American troops caught-up in the violence. Naturally, we are gushing apologies. The council of clerics continues:

 

“the apology for this evil act can never be accepted”

 

They say the five American soldiers involved “must be publicly tried and punished." This is perfectly understandable when view through a cross-cultural lens. In our culture, if you bump into a stranger as you both enter a grocery store, you apologize. It is routine and there is no shame in it. But among the tribes of the Afghans, an apology is like pleading guilty in court.

 

Has anyone noticed that our agenda is being governed by these primitive, suspicious cavemen? We are not there spending blood and treasure to glorify Islam. And that is the Achilles heel of counter-insurgency. We want to leave Afghanistan a stable democracy, and maybe an ally. To do that, we must relate to them in the context of their own culture. And to do THAT, we must prostrate ourselves before their Muslim sensibilities.

 

Vietnam was incomprehensible to many people. Why did 58,178 Americans die? For South Vietnam’s rice crop, perhaps? No. Vietnam was a battle in the Cold War. From the end of World War II until the Berlin Wall came down, we struggled to contain Communism. The great struggle of the early 21st Century is the containment of Islamism.

 

Just as “peaceful coexistence” proved impossible then, so is it again. Were it not for the windfall fortune of oil they would be fighting only among themselves, and starving. Instead, with the money and technology of the west they have lashed-out. We are entitled to self-defense.

 

This is not about the mistreatment of some Korans. We should not have offered any apology except the modest one that we offer in our culture for an unintended slight. This is not about the apologies. And this is damn sure not about punishment of the American soldiers at the jail.

 

This is about the role of international Islamist aggression. They know this is one battle in a holy war. We are foolish if we do not recognize that too. The difference is that they want to impose while we want to coexist. But when they push, we must push back. Because if we don’t, they will keep pushing.

 

I think you and I might fundamentally agree. But Islamists take their inspiration and their authority from Islam. The only reason we can’t call this a “religious war” is because Americans don’t think we should fight one. Fine. You and I can call it a defensive war of religious imperialism.

 

I don’t care about Korans in Afghanistan. I care about buildings in New York City.

 

http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/03/02/afghanistan-korans-idINDEE82109620120302

 

 

the term "religious war" was first used by Christian Crusaders. The word "Jihad"- just in case that's what you're referring to as a religious war, doesn't actually translate to "holy war" in Arabic. It translates to "the struggle" and actually refers to the struggle to maintain a faith in light of an immoral world. In that case, Christians "jihad" every day. The secondary definition refers to a defensive war strategy. Which is actually an ancient version of the "Just War Theory" that Christians came up with years later. We would agree with the idea of defensive war. But I think you should know that only Muslim extremists use the "holy war" definition of "jihad". This is wrong- it's wrong in Islam, it's wrong in Christianity. It's only a religious war if we allow ourselves to believe that the fundamental ideals of Islam are what's powering the evil behind terrorism, when in actuality, is a poor interpretation of Islam that powers Islamist terrorism. Liken it to the Westboro Baptist Church and their angry, violent protests.

 

 

 

So to call conflict in the middle-east a "religious war" is to ignore the fundamental principles of both Christianity and Islam- both of which share the most important commandment "Love the Lord your God with all of your heart, soul, mind and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself" - this commandment is present- and taken very seriously- in both religious practices.

 

 

 

 

American is a Christian nation. The “establishment clause” (from which flows so much misunderstanding about “separation of church and state”) only says that our government may not establish a favored religion. All the founders were Christian and more than 4 out of 5 Americans today identify themselves as Christian. We are secular in form; Christian in fact. That is why they target us for jihad.

 

Christians and Muslims do not look at the role of religion the same way. Indeed, “freedom of religion” (meaning tolerance) is uniquely American. Certainly it is good that an American is in Oman trying to understand Muslims. But take care that hey not recruit you or reduce you to their tool. Jihad is a religious war with those who are unbelievers in the mission of Muhammad. It is an incumbent religious duty, established in the Koran and in the Traditions as a divine institution, and enjoined specially for the purpose of advancing Islam and of repelling evil from Muslims: http://pxxq.com/AllahuAkbar2.htm

 

 

considering what I know about Jihad comes from the mouth of an individual who studies at the Institute of Sharia Studies in Oman, and the information I gather here comes from the minds and mouths if Islamic scholars themselves, I'm pretty skeptical of the credibility of that article.

 

 

 

It's amazing that peaceful dialogue with a real Muslim turns upside-down the perceptions of Islam we're handed down by the media.

 

 

 

The Holy Quran, like the Bible, can be interpreted in hundreds of different ways. Just because the media tells us that Islam is a violent, militant religion that seeks to destroy the west doesn't make it true. Have a peaceful conversation with any Muslim and you'll understand things from my point of view. They love peace as much as we do. And peace for them means not having the US occupy their land and telling them how to live.

 

 

 

http://www.acommonword.com/

 

 

 

read the story behind the common word. You'll find it interesting.

 

 

 

 

Okay. I have looked at A Common Word and now I feel I need a shower.

 

Look, when you needed to be disabused about jihad I created a webpage to lay it out for you. You immediately dismissed it as “media” so fast that you could not possibly have read it. If you had, you would have seen that the authority for it is the most respected Dictionary of Islam. I was answering the question, “What do Muslims believe ‘jihad’ means?”

 

Your instant reaction was that you have had conversations with people that have given you a different impression. As a guest student in Oman, I am not surprised that you have gotten that impression. So you had answered the question, “What impression of Islam to these people, in this circumstance, want me to have?”

 

Then you provided the link to a self-confessed propaganda website created in recent years for the purpose of gently establishing the “precedence of Islam”. No doubt there is theological overlap between Christianity and Islam. No doubt the academics and religious functionaries who author it feel they are doing God’s work. And no doubt they are, from the Islamic perspective.

 

It answers the question, “What can we tell gullible Christians so they will lower their guard?”

 

Shamelessly they admit, “this is a Theological document and the problems between Jews and Muslims are essentially political” so they excuse themselves from even attempting that bridge-building. Iran is going to have a nuclear weapon soon because our president is not peace-loving enough to stop them. When the Second Holocaust is an accomplished fact, I am sure that you will join with Muslims everywhere announcing that “what’s done is done” and praying for the absence of any retaliation “in the interest of peace.”

 

So the muftis advance jihad with their website outreach to Christians while Ahmadinejad advances jihad with uranium centrifuges. The same Ahmadinejad who invaded the American Embassy in Tehran and held American diplomats hostage throughout the Carter Administration – which is how long this recent anti-American jihad has been going.

 

Note well that he promptly released them when the fearless Ronald Reagan was inaugurated.

 

I am quite sure that you have a good heart as I am sure that Joe Muslim wishes peace. But those (perhaps few) Muslims who wish to kill me just because I am infidel are the ones who must be addressed. If you and Joe truly wish peace, then you can have it because Americans, and Christians generally, wish no new crusade.

 

I am concerned, however, that jihad will in fact be a fixed feature of the 21st century and that Iraq and Afghanistan will be only the first of several battles. And I don’t think there is much we Christians can do to avoid that.

 

 

 

except actually be Christians and love others.

 


Yea, the definition in a dictionary written by a British Christian is absolutely more credible than the definition presented by Muslim scholars themselves. All I had to do was read that definition to know that all you were trying to do was get me to stray from what I already know to be truth. The Common Word isn't propaganda. It's a letter, written by Muslim Scholars to Christian Scholars as an invitation to work together towards peaceful dialogue. Christians and Muslims together make up 55% of the world population. If 55% of the world can work peacefully together, then we can finally work towards fixing far larger problems than this silly war. Like poverty. But it's a handful war-mongering individuals who claim to be Christians and war-mongering individuals who claim to be Muslims that stop this process. And the media blows it way out of proportion and tries to tell us that this warlike attitude is right. But Christ clearly tells us to love. Christians and Muslims already coexist peacefully in every country of the world and no problems arise. The only time problems arise, is when it's a political dispute. The Christian church regarded Islam as a Christian sect until a political dispute split the two. It was a conflict between the Ummaya Dynasty and the Roman Empire. Before then, Christians saw Muhammad as a prophet from God sent to the Arabs. It's political disputes that split religions and split people. When the church and the state are separate from eachother, then we can work together peacefully and solve larger social problems. You can call me stupid all you want, but I can equally tell you "wake up and open your eyes" - don't let the actions of a handful of terrorists dictate whether or not you trust an entire religious group. It's unfair, and strays from the teachings of Jesus.




I have a paper to write and a big Arabic test at the end of this week, so I can't absorb myself in these debates at this time. So I can agree to disagree.